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Chloe and Zydeco do NOT get along at all they did long enough for me to take pics yesterday, but today whole different story.....Chloe tries to play with him, but he jumps and snaps and growls at her........I know I should've took Chloe with me, but I really didnt think it would be a problem, cause he is just a puppy.......and I dont know what to do....I have tried everything and its the same thing, jump, snarl, snap........
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I think since Zydeco is new to the household in a new environment, he's not too playful. He's probably kind stressed and still adjusting so a happy puppy jumping all over him is just not something he's ready for. Try maybe taking them both for a walk but don't let them try and play just yet, just walk with them so they can familiarize themselves with each others scents and such.
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He growls and snaps at Chloe if she just comes near him now.....she doesnt even have to be playing for him to do that
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He growls and snaps at Chloe if she just comes near him now.....she doesnt even have to be playing for him to do that
Like I said take them both for a walk but have one on each side of you and just kind of let them get some energy out so they calm down.
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I remember when.. Rubylove got another puppy. For a GOOD while, they were only allowed contact through baby gates, so they could get used to smells and each other first.
Maybe this is a possiblity?
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He's probably trying to establish the pecking order, he wants to be the big boss man!! ;) I'm sure they'll calm down in a little while, you should have sen Gus when I brought Katelina (the kitten) home!! :eek: I thought he was gonna kill her, but now they are bestest friends, in fact i think they are in luurrvve! :D
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How are you dealing with the puppy when he acts out like this??
Definately teach him that being aggresive like that is a BAD thing - to ANY dog.
Definately take this puppy to PUPPY CLASSES as soon as you can!!!
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Like I said take them both for a walk but have one on each side of you and just kind of let them get some energy out so they calm down.
Did that didnt work.............I dont know if this is going to work or not :(:(
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Did that didnt work.............I dont know if this is going to work or not :(:(
He's still adjusting... seperate them.. and, if you can, enroll both of them in a behavior class.
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hasn't it only been a day..
Puppies are NOT naturally aggresive, so something has triggered him..
Maybe Chloe is talking smack to him lmao!
Get him to puppy classes when you can.
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hasn't it only been a day..
Puppies are NOT naturally aggresive, so something has triggered him..
Maybe Chloe is talking smack to him lmao!
Get him to puppy classes when you can.
Yep only a day...and its not the cute little puppy hahaha growl and bark, it is the I'm going to get you growl and snap...
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I agree, give it a little more time. It may be that Zydeco is starting to view your home as "his", so is giving Chloe some lip. Try taking them to a neutral ground like a park, and try from there. Take some treats with you, and praise Zydeco like crazy when he does well.
And yup, get Zydeco in puppy classes. It sounds like he's quite the firecrakcer, and needs the extra help.
EDIT: And yes, don't give up! When Rubyluv got her new puppy, it took a long time before the two dogs would accept each other. Introducing them behind baby gates is a good idea.
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I agree, give it a little more time. It may be that Zydeco is starting to view your home as "his", so is giving Chloe some lip. Try taking them to a neutral ground like a park, and try from there. Take some treats with you, and praise Zydeco like crazy when he does well.
And yup, get Zydeco in puppy classes. It sounds like he's quite the firecrakcer, and needs the extra help.
EDIT: And yes, don't give up! When Rubyluv got her new puppy, it took a long time before the two dogs would accept each other. Introducing them behind baby gates is a good idea.
Yes ma'am he is :) but I am going to positve that this is going to work and that they will get along hopefully...
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Both of 'em are probably stressed. Zydeco is probably saying 'where am I and why is this dog messing with me right now?' and Chloe is probably thinking 'what's this dog doing in my house, well if he's gonna be here, he might as well play!'
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I personally feel that no puppy should show this much aggression .....I would check it out with a behaviorist . ASAP !
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NILIF and puppy classes asap for Zydeco. Sounds exactly like what Ripley did when I brought him home.
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I agree with the others...
NILIF
While your waiting for a trainer (;)) I'd suggest taking him for a puppy walk individually and letting him get a lot of his energy out. Then take Chloe for a walk, let her know that your still 'hers' despite the new monkey.
Just try to stick to a routine so they will get used to it as soon as possible... I think they'll both be okay after a week or so
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I agree NILIF and puppy classes. Just give it some time but make sure that you are not giving all you time to the new pup of the family.
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Are you sure he is not playing. Some puppies *act* agressive when playing. Hondo was playing with my friends puppy yesturday and she snarled and bite Hondo, I thought nothing of it really. They were playing.
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Are you sure he is not playing. Some puppies *act* agressive when playing. Hondo was playing with my friends puppy yesturday and she snarled and bite Hondo, I thought nothing of it really. They were playing.
Well, see that is some of the problem, one minute it "seems" like they are playing next minute he is actually snarling and snapping....
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Hmm....it does sound like it might be rough play. It's hard for me to say without actually seeing it. Zeus and Voodoo snarl, snap and growl like they're trying to kill each other.
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I agree that they need more time. Introductions, even the ones that lead to lifelong friendship, can be pretty stressful. Especially for Zydeco since he's not only come from a strange place into another strange place (to him). Also, he's not only trying to get to know you and your rules but also Chloe and her's. I would use distraction and redirect before they get "into it" and just try to keep their interactions interesting in other ways rather than it just being all about them. Ultimate leadership on your part will help make things go more smoothly. NILIF is imperative but they also need to know at cruch time, you are QUEEN SHEBA....;)
One more note - Aren't Cat's supposed to be more vocal than some other breeds? Gempress would know better about this, but I thought that this breed tended to naturally be quite vocal..that might explain the growlies (but I'd have to see body language)...Any chance of a short video, it would really help to see and hear them in action.
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Doc to the rescue! :D
It took almost three weeks before Bimmer finally gave up trying to stay out of Shiva's reach . . . And the first thing Kharma did when Charley let Shiva come bounding out of the house to "meet" her was to jump Shiva. Literally scared the pee out of Shiva! Once everyone learns that "mom" doesn't put up with any lip things smooth out in a hurry ;)
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Yes Doc they are vocal, but he is just, I dont know how to say it, wild :p I dont have a camcorder so I cant get any sound, but I can take short videos on my camera and I will try to post them later when I take them out again.....
and I dont know if this is anything, but chloe trys to roll over on his head, and just lays there :eek:
Thanks Renee I guess its just the fact that he is a puppy, and it just seemed wierd, I guess I am comparing to Chloe :o I know I shouldnt but she is/was a good puppy not saying that he isnt a good puppy he's just different :o
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Jess....your description of Zydeco is so incredibly familiar. There's a reason why Voodoo is known as The Catahoula Terror. It definately sounds like you have a chaos demon on your hands.
From one chaos guardian to another, I'll try to give some insight as to what you can expect. Maybe it will help.
Yes, they are crazy. Catahoulas go after life with great gusto, and they don't want to "waste" a moment of their day. They are a high drive breed; anything they do, they throw themselves into completely. They don't do anything half@$$ed. That trait makes them frighteningly easy to train with the right motivation, but it can also make it difficult to cure bad habits. Like most herding dogs, they are intelligent and very curious/nosy. Catahoulas are also remarkably tough (I guess it comes from the bully influence), and they seem to shake off pain like nothing. Have you ever met those little boys who put buckets on their heads and charge into walls "Just to see what it feels like"? That's a catahoula pup. ;)
Voodoo is a giant blob of ego covered with fur. He's always prancing, strutting and never ceases to amaze himself. :rolleyes: But despite that, I wouldn't necessarily say that they're highly dominant dogs. Voodoo is actually quite happy to be submissive to people. Even though Voodoo acknowledges Zeus as the alpha, he is always puffing up and showing off to Zeus. The attitude seems to be "Just because you're the leader doesn't mean you're better than me!"
And as you already know, they can be aggressive to strange dogs and have food aggression to other dogs. Voodoo had some bad food/chew toy aggression issues, but it has gotten much better. Now I can even feed the boys side by side without any problems.
They can be a real trial. If you remember, I was seriously considering rehoming my Catahoula Terror. But everything Voodoo does seems to have a lot of good nature behind it; he's really not trying to challenge me or test my leadership, like many dominant breeds tend to do. He's just being a chaos demon.
I think that Zydeco will be fine with time. But I do agree, get him puppy classes and LOTS of socialization and training. Redirect that energy and drive.
I hope this helps some.
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Thanks Gempress, I guess no matter how much you read and everything its never quite the same when you bring one home ;) I am going to "attempt" to maybe take him to Petsmart tonight for a little....
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You know, Zydeco is an incredibly appropriate name for him. Cause Louisiana Catahoula dogs... Zydeco is played all the time here all over the place especially in cajun-dominated areas.
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You know, Zydeco is an incredibly appropriate name for him. Cause Louisiana Catahoula dogs... Zydeco is played all the time here all over the place especially in cajun-dominated areas.
Thanks :D I looked up a bunch of Cajun words and just found one that suited him :) with a little help from the catahoula queen :p (Gempress) hehehe
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Thanks :D I looked up a bunch of Cajun words and just found one that suited him :) with a little help from the catahoula queen :p (Gempress) hehehe
Great choice, indeed. :)
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and I dont know if this is anything, but chloe trys to roll over on his head, and just lays there :eek:
Oh, that's funny! She's stifling him, lol!
Thanks Renee I guess its just the fact that he is a puppy, and it just seemed wierd, I guess I am comparing to Chloe :o I know I shouldnt but she is/was a good puppy not saying that he isnt a good puppy he's just different :o
They really can be different. Bimmer was a gentleman from the time he was a baby. Shiva was . . . . well, Shiva :eek: Kharma was all flirt and attitude, much like her aunt/half sister Buffy was, but without Buffy's massive sense of decorum.
I have a feeling Zydeco is more like Shiva than Bimmer, lol!
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Oh, that's funny! She's stifling him, lol!
I have a feeling Zydeco is more like Shiva than Bimmer, lol!
I think so too Renee....:) LOL....Chloe has been very good, except for rolling on his head, but he did deserved it:p
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Jess,
I have owned catahoulas in the past and actually taken two pups who were raised together. They had this agressive behavior too infact everyone I had anything to do with did. It is the way they are. They need serious training and the need strong boundries. No giving in. They are very intellegent and will test you daily as to what they can get away with. Each one I have ever known wants to take the role of leader , male or female. Seperate them and introduce them slowly and for a very short time supervised. In the mean time start training with pup asap. Never wait on any cattledog. Cattledogs are different from any other breeds you may know and they are a handfull at first. Once trained they will be the greatest . However it is a lot of work and not for everyone. I have said somewhere before that I would never reccomend a catahoula around small children unattended because of their nature and I know that I will be bashed for this but Catahoulas are just now becoming popular here and I had them back in the 80's when they were not populary known about. Catahoulas when bored or not trained become agressive and destructive. Don't be surprised that he is growling with a agressive growl they do. He is telling Chloe he is # 1 from this day forward.
I have been a Queensland Heeler owner since 1972 and yes I still call them that because I find people grouping Catahoulas, Aussie shepards and Heelers into one group by the ACD name and they are not the same.
You all know Whiskey and Allie by now and yes they can be extremely agressive at times they are taught that it is not acceptable to be unless running cattle. When taking on that task which they do then do what it takes to get the job done. They are working beautifully together but they do still get into some good scrap from time to time because they are not working and on does something the other did not care for. This is usually brought about by Allie as she was agressive when we got her and she is still at this time undergoing serious behavior retraining. Getting better every day. Good luck with your newbie and hang in there. As I said they are not a dog for everyone because they require a lot of work and can get out of control. On a happy note your Catahoula will amaze you in training class as to how fast he nails a comand over some of the other breeds but make sure your trainer knows your breed because many don't and think that your dog is too mean >
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Well, see that is some of the problem, one minute it "seems" like they are playing next minute he is actually snarling and snapping....
Some puppies are really rough. Give it some more time.
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Some puppies are really rough. Give it some more time.
I am :) So far so good today, I figured that I would attempt to let them work it out for themselves and see what happens.......Cause I am sure if Zydeco got on Chloe's nerves enough she will tell him off and hopefully put him in his place...
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Jess I dated a guy who had a Catahoola and it was hyper as hell! he loved his dog but did not take care of exercise and stimulation wise. As far as the aggression goes, I dont know the story of where you got him, but did he come from somewhere where he had to defend himself against other dogs? Just a thought, Good luck n hes adorable.
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Jess I dated a guy who had a Catahoola and it was hyper as hell! he loved his dog but did not take care of exercise and stimulation wise. As far as the aggression goes, I dont know the story of where you got him, but did he come from somewhere where he had to defend himself against other dogs? Just a thought, Good luck n hes adorable.
Only I know is that he was in a high kill shelter and the foster mom pulled him...I believe she said that he was an owner turn in ???