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Ok I've been reading alot of threads here. Ive read almost all the threads on the "Labradoodles", because I will be getting one soon. Which will be a Multi-gen Aussie Doodle. I would like to say that we first looked at the animal shelters here where i live first. I either wanted a Labradoodle or a small dog. Well, I decided against the shelters here because I was mortified. I hear so many people talk about breeders, breeding just for the money. Which I think is true in alot of cases. But I totally walked out of the local Human Society 2 months ago, and will never go back. After looking over all the dogs I finally seen one I liked. It was a RAT Terrier mix. I flipped up the papers on the cage and almost lost it. They were asking $350 for the adoption of this dog. So its not just breeders marking up prices on dogs these days. I talked to a worker there to see if maybe I wasnt understanding what i was seeing. She told me that $350 really was what they were asking. I donate monthly to this shelter BTW. I asked since I was a supporter, could I get him for a cheaper rate. I was told "NO". I can't speak for anyother state but the one I live in. But no wonder why people where i live don't get shelter dogs. I think getting dogs from shelters is wonderful, but Im sorry I wont be getting one here anytime soon. If Im going to spend that much Im going to get one that i really want. Has anyone else came across this?
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This thread could get ugly. I congratulate you on checking on adoption at a shelter. Now you might have to buckle your seat belt because there are some members here who would like to debate you on your love of a doodle breed.
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i got pepe (bichon frise) for $90, it use to be $70. it depends on where you go.
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well i don't think these new ''breeds'' are bad to love. just i disagree with these fancy names to cover up that they're just regular mutts and really over 1,000 dollars for a dog who has tons of health problems?
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$350 might sound high to you, but it is minimal considering the amount of money and care that humane society has to put in that dog to get it ready to come home to you. Many times at least a portion of the spay/neuter fee is included in the adoption fee. Dogs require vaccinations, lots of times the shelters do that too. Not to mention the fact that if the dog came in and had been hit by a car or was really sick, they had to get that animal ready to adopt.
A dog from a REPUTABLE breeder will cost probably 3 times that. You will still have to have money for vaccinations, heart worm and flea preventatives, spay and neuter, plus any other thing that comes up.
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I personally have no problem with a person loving a doodle dog either, but the way threads like this have gone lately I do not see it going well.
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But for that $350 you would have gotten a dog with all it's shots and neutered at the same time. You're going to have to shell out much more than than for any doodle you get.
Shelters run on donations, as you already know. It's nigh impossible to keep up with the demand; they have to house, feed and give medical attention to every dog that passes through their doors. That gets pricy very, very quickly.
Yes, $350 is quite high for most shelters; the most I've paid for a dog was $175 for my Aussie from his rescue. However, it's a drop in the bucket compared to what you will probably end up spending.
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here's my shetler's coverage
$95.00 for Puppies
$85.00 for Dogs
$70.00 for Felines
$40.00 for second Cat or Kitten adopted at the same time.
This donation includes:
Spaying/neutering for every animal, including puppies and kittens, before going home
Treatment for Fleas & Ticks
Up-to-date vaccinations and de-worming
Overall wellness check
Heartworm test for dogs and Feline Leukemia test for cats
Tattoo identification and I.D. tag
Free pet behavior counseling
14 Day Healthcare plan
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how about intoducing yourself first before making your first post like this
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Maybe they needed the money, they're prob taking in MANY MANY dogs and having to give shots to, provide medical care for, and neuter/spay for them ALL. naturally, all the little dogs go alot alot faster, so they must overcharge for the small ones to make enough money to keep the big ones (who eat more,cost more and need more) around. Theres pretty much no point of going to a breeder for a so-called "labradoodle" because it isnt a breed, just go to the same shelter and find a big dog that you want, the labradoodle is gonna get big anyway. (LABRA=LABRADOR)the big dogs probably arent so overpriced. I dont mean to cause trouble or w/e but i think this whole "labradoodle" thing is just plain dumb. if it makes u feel better when u go to the shelter ask them to make up a name for the mixes, then you can tell all ur little friends that u have a "LABRAPOINTERSHEPHERD TERRIER" or something like that. Shelters are there to help dogs and im glad that u donate to them, but instead of just adopting a dog for 350$ your going to go to a so called "BREEDER" and buy a so called "BREED" for 10 times that amount. just think about ur descision before u get a dog.
good lucky with ur dog or puppy, whatever u choose :)
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i understand shelters have alot of expenses. Thats why I make a pretty nice monthly donation. I guess my real issue was that they only had certain dogs for that amount. Other dogs were $150. I seemed to notice the mellow, small, quiet, well-behaved ones where the only dogs that had really high price tags. But i walked by cages were dogs were very aggressive acting and jumping up all over the place, barking like mad, they were only $150. I know it might be harder for these dogs to get placed showing that kind of behavior. But come on. I thought the purpose was for all the dogs to just find a loving home. I think its just looks bad for them to make you pay double the price cause the dog is better behaved. And I "would not pay $350 for a dog no matter what, that would not come with at least a one year warrenty". PERIOD. I almost stopped donating to them 2 years ago after they asked for more donation to make more space for the animals. I then see it when they rebuilt it and they added a up-stairs that was nothing but big plushy offices. That really pissed alot of poeple off. i knew a few people who no longer give our shelters any of there money.
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This isnt a Labradoodle post. Its about the shelters. Oh I forgot to add this is a kill shelter. And the lady i asked about the prices told me that there have been dogs that people were interested in but said that they were not looking to spend that much. And the same dog ends up getting put to sleep cause nobody ever adopts it. I think making $150 is better than not making the $350 and killing the animal.
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Ok, yeah, kill shelters have no business asking for that much per dog. The only way it would be anywhere near acceptable was if they were converting to a low/no-kill shelter. Maybe if they didn't spend so much money on the pink stuff...
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If you buy a pure bred dog for only $350, it will most likely not come from a reputable breeder. You should look around at other shelters.
Yes, I agree. $350 is a lot for a shelter dog.
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I have never heard of a HS changing prices for a purebred or designer dog. You can find any doodle what ever for $ 1000 or more or get a mutt of same breeding for less than $300. If you're dead set on this, make sure they have a pedigree of at least 3 generation. This will cost you at least $1500 from overseas.
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Alrighty, after reading your post.. I have a few things to mention to you...
Well, I decided against the shelters here because I was mortified. I hear so many people talk about breeders, breeding just for the money. Which I think is true in alot of cases.
First of all.. why do you think that someone who would breed a mix like a doodle thingy not breed for money? Its a mix...
But I totally walked out of the local Human Society 2 months ago, and will never go back. After looking over all the dogs I finally seen one I liked. It was a RAT Terrier mix. I flipped up the papers on the cage and almost lost it. They were asking $350 for the adoption of this dog. So its not just breeders marking up prices on dogs these days. I talked to a worker there to see if maybe I wasnt understanding what i was seeing. She told me that $350 really was what they were asking.
You do realize that getting a doodle thing you are going to be paying about the same IF NOT MORE then $350 for a mix?? its basically the same principle.. except this time you'll get the fun priviledge of puppy costs like vetting, possible health problems (ie. worms, genetic disfunctions) and THEN puppy classes for training. The shelter has prices set for a reason. its to cover THEIR costs in taking care of all the animals that they have their(food, shots, spaying, nuetering), other bills that they have, and to pay all of the workers that are there.
I donate monthly to this shelter BTW. I asked since I was a supporter, could I get him for a cheaper rate. I was told "NO". I can't speak for anyother state but the one I live in. But no wonder why people where i live don't get shelter dogs. I think getting dogs from shelters is wonderful, but Im sorry I wont be getting one here anytime soon. If Im going to spend that much Im going to get one that i really want.
Thats awesome that you donate to the shelter, they are more then likely in the need of it. But think about it, if everyone who donated to a shelter came in asking for "discounts" on animals - howwould the shelter make a profit for the other animals? Its sort of like putting a "deposit" down for when/if you get a dog from them.
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Shelters around here charge a lot more for small dogs than they do for medium or large ones. I guess it's because smaller dogs are more in demand.
I have rarely gone to a shelter and even seen a small dog...that's how fast they are adopted out.
Pam
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I agree that that is expensive for a shelter dog, BUT it is the shelter's prerogative to charge whatever price they want. The only shelters I've been to call themselves "non-profit" but I know things about these shelters that most people don't know. They are businesses, and they need to make money somehow.
I don't want to start anything, but Labradoodles are a "designer breed." You know, the original breeding program for Australian labradoodles fell through because the dog's temperments turned out to be nothing like that of a lab or a poodle, and the dogs turned out to be neither non-shedding nor hypoallergenic. There are still some people breeding them for guide work, but the amount of dogs that actually pass their evaluations is extremely low. I can't STAND labradoodles and goldendoodles. We get tons of them in at work. They are HYPER and crazy, they jump all over the place, they bark, they are nuts. The labradoodles that come in (not the goldens so much) are usually terrified of everything, they are very difficult to groom because they either run around on the table, terrified that you will do something to them, or they stand very stiffly, afraid to move. The goldendoodles are difficult to groom because they never stop moving, they are constantly in your face, jumping all over you and barking, biting your hands, etc. I find that they are very similar, labradoodles and goldendoodles, but that there are more shy labradoodles and more "out there" goldendoodles. It was a labradoodle that jumped on my coworker's face and scratched her eye. I'm more allergic to doodles than anything else. They drive my nose crazy. We get in several-generation doodles, and one generation doodles. Never seems to make a difference. Honestly, they weren't cut out for the guide dog work they were originally bred for, and their brains are so far gone from lack of responsible breeding that they really can't do anything. If someone wants a mixed breed, they should go to a shelter and rescue a dog. To think that people support these breeders and then unleash these dogs upon me at work when I COULD have had a good day? No offense to doodle owners, just a personal opinion. These dogs have way to much energy and excitability for me. I've been jumped on, scratched, and bitten by way too many of them.
Why not just get a lab or a poodle?
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I understand all of that. But they don't make anything off the dogs they kill when people who really want a dog arn't willing to pay that much for a shelter animal. When the lady told me that she said it like it was no big thing. I sorry but im sure the big well behaved dog doesnt cost more to feed then the big wild one. And i did call 2 weeks later and the dog that was $350 was still there. Wonder why? Probably will be the next dog they kill. Very sad.
And there are a couple reasons ive decided to go with the dog Im getting. And I have done research. I'm not getting my dog from a back yard breeder and its not a puppy mill either. My dog might be costing alittle more than some dog would but if im paying in the hundreds I want some history and guarantee. My puppy will come with a 2 yr guarantee, mirochiped, ID number, veterinary records of immunizations and worming, registration and transfer papers for LAA, early veterinary cert of early spay, socialization, beginning crate and potty training, ongoing support, if for any reason I can't keep him I can return him to them, I get copies of his family pedigrees, paperwork that shows his parents and all the way up to great-grand-parents DNA history, she works through the LAA and goes by their standards. I can go to the Aussie site and I can read about and see pictures of my puppies parents, grand-parents, great-grandparents, great-great-grandparents up til 7 generations. My dog has a long curly wool coat that DOES NOT SHED. And I know this cause there is alot of generations with my puppy that supports this. My breeder DOES NOT sell puppies that are not spayed or neutered PERIOD. So I don't see what the issue is with people on how much I might pay since I will know more about my dog then ,most know about their own. I had to complete a credit check, met with her 3 times already, I get an e-mail from her everyother day since the mom was preggo with him. She picks the best puppy for you, you just don;t go in there and say I want that one. She has some people who have waited over a year to get a puppy cause she felt she didnt have the right match for them. I have talked with over 20 people who have gotten puppies from her and we e-mail on a regular basis. So i think just for all the quality, time, and caring she puts into her dogs shows its not just all about money for her. Its wrong to put everyone in one catagory without knowing the facts. My dog will be loved just as he was when he was there. BTW-she doesnt even let her puppies go until they are 12 weeks, thats longer than most breeders iv'e seen.
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Lets remember that here in the US there is much more a possibility that breeders of "labradoodles" are BYBs. I have seen that in Austrailia(I believe she stated she was getting an australian "labradoodle") you can actually find reputable breeders of "labradoodles"(and most of those reputable breeders hate the term "labradoodle" and want to actually make it its own breed).
We must have our fun, but let's play nice! :D
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I feel lost. Whats a doodle dog?
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http://static.flickr.com/50/132209611_7ca482af52_m.jpghere is a picture of my babies Aunt. She is a aussie multi-gen labradoodle. She just got back from duck hunting...http://static.flickr.com/55/132215654_afc91f0d17_m.jpg and a picture of his brother from a previous litter...
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Where are his eyes.. lol :p
Intresting. Why is it called a doodle dog? Is it mixed or a new breed?
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Labradoodle = lab/poodle mix
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:confused: FYI - Every breed began as a mix, in a perfect world no breeders would be breeding until all shelters were empty. Then, they would only be allowed to breed after going through a certification process and abiding by stringent regulations. Some of the original Labradoodles breeders in Australia have been breeding successfully for over 35 years and are still going strong. I too wish it all stayed in Australia. I absolutly agree with everyone who is disheartened by the explosion of all new mixed breeds by unscrupulous backyard breeders but breed/mix hating solves nothing. Yes, I own a Labradoodle, and although I would not seek out this breed (she's a rescue), I have never met a more loving, quietly intelligent and kind soul in all my life. Yes, her coat is a nightmare and no she doesn't shed (unusual) she is probably an F1b (poodle-doodle mix) and I spend at least 30 minutes/day grooming to keep her matt/knot free. She truly does have the social desire of the Lab with the pride and keen smarts of the poodle. I also meet many "doodles" as I own a very busy training facility in Calgary and I meet more like mine than the scarey creatures you described. I too am sick about all of the hype and the resulting flood of doodles showing up in rescues, unfortunately they're following in the footsteps of every pure bred that ends up needing a rescue group due to human ignorance. It's hard to read "I hate" about any breed or mix......
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They are mixed or mutts if you perfer to say. Lab and poodle. Im getting a multi-gen so mine will be a multi-gen to multi-gen mix.
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Oh cool!! Very cool. I hope you get yours soon :)
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registration and transfer papers for LAA,
What is a LAA?
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I was wondering the same thing..
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LOL copied and pasted wrong listing before..fixed now... It also explains the DNA profile and may also answer some of the questions people have had about them trying to make the Labradoodle a breed..
LAA= Labradoodle association of Australia www.laa.org.au
The Australian labradoodle Association INC. (LAA) is the founding parent body of the Australian Labradoodle, and as such is the organization which will submit the Australian Labradoodle breed standard to the Kennel clubs for consideration as a recognize new breed when the required criteria set by them have been met.
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A kill shelter has NO right to ask that much. 350?! is the dog crapping out gold nuggets?! Lol :P jk , but its still exagerated